I agree with Chris that server firsts/server progression matters. Maybe it doesn’t to everyone and that’s okay. Personally there’s not much left to interest me in this expansion and server competition between guilds keeps me engaged.
Even [some] casual players keep track of server progress although they’re not participating in it themselves. It does help for recruitment purposes, but even aside from that, many find it personally enjoyable or derive motivation from it when they would otherwise cancel their sub till MoP. I think it’s kind of silly to say only the world-first guilds matter. It’s like participating in a marathon or race. Just because you don’t come out first, or tenth, etc doesn’t mean it wasn’t worth participating in at all. And their is still that sense of accomplishment for many regardless of how long it took them to get to the finish line.
Server transferring isn’t an option for everyone and even if it was, there are still a lot of people tied to a server via friends, family, history, memories, or just absurd, inexplicable loyalty. I think the competition between guilds promotes a sense of community on servers (if that makes sense). There are few things left in the game that do that, since the introduction of dungeon/raid finder, and hell, even the introduction of guild leveling/perks– I think those are all things that have eroded server communities to an extent (not saying those tools shouldn’t be in-game BTW).
Anyway, great podcast as usual, it is nice hearing the opposing viewpoints and banter . The guild-raid-finder story made me laugh.
Hey guys great show like always. Just a thought on making gold with enchanting. I have when i was playing on a regular basis sell the shit out of heirloom enchants 15 agi to wep, 15 str to wep, 3 stats to chest those 3 alone would clear me 15-20k weekly if the mats were a good price witch sometimes there not. dont play much anymore so not sure what the market value is but still may be worth looking in to for starters fiery wep is another that sells good as well as icy chill and crusader just an FYI.
Is it worth it? I never understood it when I hear raiders say “I could’ve improved my dps but it isn’t worth it.” Even 100 dps is more dps. Imo I want to make my toon the best it can be. What is 5k, 10k, 15k? You guys talk about making gold, do you have gold because you know how to make it or because you just save it up? Making 15k doesn’t take long at all and for me the reason I make gold is so I can have the best of the best for my toons. At the start of Firelands I spent over 50k for the mats so I can get the crafted stuff. I guess what soemthing is “worth” depends on teh person. For me I want to max my toon out to the max. Even if it is just 10 stats. Ppl in more causal raid sense I can see it not being “Worth” spending top gold on stuff. But even then, gold is super easy to make but if you are ok with just being “good enough” and don’t want to push your toons the most you can, that to each his own I guess.
I just found you guys today and loved listening to the podcast. Ryan you are one funny dude and have an interesting view on the game.
The hardcore vs casual is a really good dynamic. Keep up the great work.